[18:34] hee [18:34] you need a newton! [18:35] I have a Newton. [18:35] vaio - smaller than a cisco manual [18:35] * geoffeg has a newton also [18:35] OK - the tv commercial with the talking belly buttons has got me seriously freaked out [18:35] i think [18:35] that isnt saying much [18:35] merlyn: hee [18:35] I have a Vaio. It lacks the aforementioned serial port. [18:35] it's just --- weird [18:35] That's the only thing I dislike about it. [18:35] even with the docking dongle? [18:35] * acire has manual from cisco that are bigger than most new laptops [18:35] heehh eheh hehe dongle [18:35] I miss my vaio :( [18:35] merlyn: weirder than the suicidal potato add? [18:36] it's a non-mounting dongle, too. [18:36] s/dd/d/ [18:36] I am a network geek. Lack of a serial port makes me useless. [18:36] beeer: vaio has a serial port dongle [18:36] "non-mounting dongle" [18:36] I had a serial port on the port replicator [18:36] geoffeg: you wouldn't want to mount the dongle by accident [18:36] I know. I have the USB serial port adapter thingy. [18:36] "ah shit, now it's stuck" [18:36] beeer: usb? ew. [18:36] * coral hasn't inspected his dongle. [18:36] I'm thinking I want a powerbook. [18:36] it was the only way (as a network geek) I got away with using it. [18:36] My point is that now I'm dependent on this fucking dongle. [18:36] * dollarbar is sad because everyone missed her funny [18:37] beeer: no, because you'll buy several [18:37] * coral scrolls [18:37] Not at $70 each, I won't. [18:37] dollarbar: no, i didnt' miss it! [18:37] several at $70 ea [18:37] * dollarbar is happy [18:37] but you said it was a msg thingy, so i was all quiet like is polite [18:37] *** TonyC sets mode: +o oznux [18:37] i've pasted 20 line dream journal entries here [18:37] oz! [18:37] never stuck around to see what happened yet [18:37] mendel! [18:37] super oz! [18:38] I could make a console cable out of random wire if I lose my console cable. But I can't make a usb serial dongle out of scrap. [18:38] * dollarbar sent the message to her palm and it said "no, no beer", why dont you go to the fridge [18:38] heh [18:38] This is poor progress. [18:38] beeer worse than that is the ibm thinkpads...their serial connections are usb dongles. [18:38] wow, i have some damned stinky feet [18:38] * TorgoX restarts, to burn a CD [18:38] * beeer grumbles [18:39] Im considering buying a powerbook. [18:39] I think I want my own laptop...one that I will not have to give up if I ever leave my job. [18:39] Powerbooks don't run FreeBSD. That's the only reason I didn't. [18:39] One that I can run any IOS on. [18:39] Errrr...OS [18:39] Hi Freud. [18:39] :) [18:39] no, but they do run NetBSD/OpenBSD [18:39] haha [18:40] be me /great/ [18:40] purl, be me /great/ [18:40] Yes, it's breast. er, great. [18:40] creature of habit..I guess I normally type IOS more often than I ever type OS [18:40] be mendel again [18:40] I have a tiny one! [18:40] IOS? [18:40] IOS is not difficult. But the 7500, IIRC, sucks in all of the VLAN crap. or the Incompatible Operating System [18:40] hey wait a second [18:40] I have en aliases to su on my unix boxes. [18:40] Cisco OS basically [18:40] ok [18:40] Internetwork Operating System [18:40] beeer: why? [18:41] hahahaha. Incompatible Operating System [18:41] hdp: Because en is how you enter IOS's superuser equivalent mode. [18:41] hmm [18:41] 7500s are small [18:41] acire: For many years the research OS in the MIT AI lab was 'ITS', the Incompatible Time-Sharing System [18:41] and I end up typing en on my unix boxes when I want to su. [18:41] beeer: hee [18:42] alias en=se [18:42] I end up typing enable when I want to su as well [18:42] alias en=su [18:42] Exactly. [18:42] precisely [18:42] ditto [18:42] If you're giving away 7500s, acire, I'll take two. [18:42] * beeer whistles [18:42] * coral raises a hand [18:42] nah. I think we already threw them out [18:42] hey cogent [18:42] beeer: ah. I thought you were pronouncing "n" [18:42] Threw them out? [18:42] FUCK. [18:42] I think we did throw one of them out. [18:43] * beeer runs the home for unloved network hardware [18:43] Greetings, dollarbar. [18:43] * acire runs a home too but had no way of getting it home [18:43] My lab would have benefitted greatly from such a beast. [18:43] Rhizomatic and unixnet should become one. [18:43] * coral agrees with mendel [18:43] oh! we threw out the 7576 [18:43] * beeer sobs [18:43] you through out a router?!!! [18:43] You threw out a 7576? Are you mad? [18:43] AHHHHH [18:43] NOOOOO [18:43] * coral looks at acire [18:43] and..the rest of the 7500s..I think we gave them back to cisco. [18:43] acire: they're all going to laugh at you. [18:44] GAVE [18:44] Actually that happened to like 8 GSR12's at Cisco a while ago [18:44] That was very amusing [18:44] I think it would be hard to merge unixnet and rhizomatic right now [18:44] If I didn't already have a headache, this would give me one. [18:44] mendel: ? [18:44] unixnet is too big. [18:44] yeah, it was only about 6 7500s [18:44] er [18:44] They were accidentally thrown into a dumpster. [18:44] i suppose [18:44] nine servers! [18:44] 10 users per [18:44] :) [18:44] "accidentally" [18:44] 8 actually. [18:44] mendel: sure [18:44] How do you accidentally discard a GSR? [18:44] mendel: oh. [18:44] i'd just link them as a group. [18:45] well yeah [18:45] and NOT modify the round robin irc.rhizomatic [18:45] but you get to get everyone to agree [18:45] Do you asentmindedly crumpe it up and throw it in recycling? [18:45] Yes. Very soon after that, a GlobalCenter employee in Sunnyvale started asking if we thought it would fit into the back of her RAV4... [18:45] oh. hee. [18:45] :-) [18:45] I think we have 20 GSRs in our server room. [18:45] mendel: hey. you saw the RFP article (re: Gnome 2.0) on slashdot? [18:45] i ignored the article, but the RFP proposal they put out was REALLY COOL [18:45] GOd. [18:45] and i'm looking to see what other people think. [18:45] RFP? [18:45] beeer: I'd guess that they were thought to be faulty or something. I don't know, some warehouse guys threw them away [18:45] beeer, no, facilities sees it by another trash pile and takes it out with the trash as well ;) [18:45] pause [18:46] http://www106.pair.com/rhp/policy.html [18:46] check that out. [18:46] Of any of you get an urge to throw out any other network hardware, send it to me instead. I'll pay shipping. [18:46] acire: Where do you work? [18:46] the first batch of GSRs we got from Cisco were immediately RMA'd...Cisco initiated it as well [18:46] Cablevision. [18:46] i think cablevision is where acire works [18:46] i was wondering if the perl community could use to read that implementing new features. [18:46] Ah [18:46] thanks purl [18:46] * coral hugs purl [18:46] purl, acire? [18:46] acire is far from disclipined with respect to wearing it at home. [18:46] coral: get off me, you botvert! [18:46] *** TonyC sets mode: +o DrForr_ [18:46] * coral grins [18:46] purl++ [18:46] hahahahaha [18:46] Wearing.. it. [18:47] * mendel blinks at acire. [18:47] MORE TORGOX ACTION [18:47] acire: nice quote [18:47] my cast. from when my foot was broke! [18:47] TorgoX: http://www.plover.com/~mjd/misc/HAHAHAHAHA [18:47] * cogent throws purl a tasty botsnack [18:47] acire: uh huh [18:47] be acire [18:47] I didn't poke around to see how furry our drama teacher was. [18:47] that's right [18:47] * coral grins at purl [18:47] HAHAHA [18:47] coral: NO! Voting is a bad idea. [18:47] robrt: i agree. [18:47] however, i like time limits. [18:47] be magister [18:47] IS THIS A BREAST? I'VE HEARD OF THOSE [18:47] but i guess there's no point without voting [18:47] be crysflame [18:47] there are seeds in my juice! [18:47] * coral winces [18:47] dominus -- that's great. :) [18:47] be shizukesa [18:47] My nipples are PS/2 [18:47] amagosa..we just went through a _major_ network rebuild last year. [18:48] be coral! [18:48] i'm horribly seductive when it comes to straight girls [18:48] BAH [18:48] i hate that one [18:48] coral: We have an established system.. seems to work. [18:48] be ignatz [18:48] I just kept shooting and shooting and the goddam shrimp kept charging and then everything went black. I think it chewed my ear off. [18:48] * coral looks at ignatz [18:48] !!! [18:48] be torgox [18:48] I will unleash a gazpacho that will RULLLLLEEEE THE WORLD! [18:48] Classic Conrad. [18:48] be yrlnry [18:48] I LOVE SENDMAIL BECAUSE I LOVE HAVING MY ASSHOLE REAMED OUT WITH A TREE BRANCH. [18:48] a very modular build...with 2-4 GSRs in each module. [18:48] * coral scans the /who list [18:48] SOMEONE FUNNY [18:48] be mendel yet again [18:48] that's a great shot of dick [18:48] along with 2-4 6509s in each. [18:48] haha [18:48] be acme? [18:48] i'm not an irc junkie like you guys or repeat until CPAN [18:48] mjd -- Hey, %you%, that thing you said aboout %topic% is not bad at all! [18:49] be stimps [18:49] I find kicking myself in the butt to be very athletic. [18:49] purl be acme =~ s/guys or repeat/guys|repeat/ [18:49] OK, coral [18:49] be addi? [18:49] YeS! [18:49] be addi? [18:49] Emacs is *HARD* [18:49] be aevil? [18:49] Oh Behave! [18:49] TorgoX: He charges up to $500 for an MLM script, whatever that is. [18:49] be aevil yet again [18:49] i think that the girl scouts should be trained as highly skilled assassins...would be more interesting than merit badges [18:49] be aevil [18:49] Oh Behave! [18:49] purl, be me [18:49] Smack it with your wang. [18:49] be aevil again [18:49] the things men will do to get laid is quite impressive [18:49] be amagosa again [18:49] TorgoX: I'm presently negotiating to obtain some code samples. [18:49] Anything involving a 6509 for more than just lan switching/routing is probably above my head. [18:49] yaasastfu - Remember the young lady you were asking about an architect's perspective? Well, she took a perl class and gave me an idea of what she was visualising at supper Saturday. [18:49] be amagosa [18:49] Well, I promised myself I wouldn't speak out of context anymore so, I'll have to deny your request. [18:49] hah [18:49] be beeer again [18:49] So it's a complete and total posermobile [18:49] be me again [18:49] * purl declaims: "PANTS" [18:49] DrForr: Edwina? [18:49] That'd be her. [18:50] be geoffeg [18:50] /me mounts st helens or poop [18:50] She's cool. [18:50] beeer++ "posermobile" [18:50] oh dear [18:50] Yeah, she was. [18:50] well, we are not using any of the 6509s as catalysts. [18:50] THey have the consolidated IOS. [18:50] * waltman returns [18:50] mjd -- I hope YOUR HEAD EXPLODES from the sheer QUALITY of the programs!!!! [18:50] gnaarargh [BOOM] [18:50] They need to fix so many things about IOS as a switching OS. [18:50] Yow! [18:50] The Osmonds! You are all Osmonds!! Throwing up on a freeway at dawn!!! [18:50] TorgoX++ [18:50] mastermind cgi program in perl (grotesque hack): http://www.panix.com/~joshp/mm.cgi [18:50] The first thing would be CatOS port grouping commands. [18:51] hee [18:51] Silmaril: IT DIDN"T WORK [18:51] be geoffeg [18:51] my deck has an insertion slot! [18:51] be geoffeg [18:51] * purl mounts st helens or poop [18:51] bah! [18:51] purl, be me again [18:51] * purl declaims: "PANTS" [18:51] purl be geoffeg =~ s/helens or OK, coral [18:51] * coral puts head on table [18:51] * hdp gets Head. [18:51] we use it on every one of them...and they actually are so much better than CatOS [18:51] OO [18:51] * hdp drops Head. [18:51] coral: WHAT ARE YOU DOING UP [18:51] purl, what is the tusk? [18:51] the tusk is one of the stranger songs ever to make the charts [18:51] literal be geoffeg =~ /st/ [18:51] coral: be geoffeg =is= my deck has an insertion slot!|apache ate my balls|mounts st |poop [18:51] hrm [18:52] Well, repetitive config on many ports sucks under IOS. [18:52] * hdp gets Head. [18:52] you fucked me up! [18:52] be gil [18:52] no, purl, the tusk is the first thing \you must locate when \you read a strange program [18:52] okay, yaasastfu. [18:52] You can't treat them like dialer-groups or anything like that. [18:52] I have not used Consolidated IOS. I hate switches with IOS, though. [18:52] ya know. I read "deck" completely wrong... [18:52] You can't define ranges of interfaces/ports to apply a config to. [18:52] amagosa, you will seriously hate Cosmos then. [18:52] errr...I think you can beeer.. [18:52] That's my problem. [18:52] I remember several commands that I could specify a range to [18:52] I'M NOT GETTING ENOUGH TUSK. [18:52] Not unless that was a very recent addition. [18:52] we had some 2948G's with CatOS, and that was great. Easy to manage large groups of ports with one command. [18:53] whereas, on any other IOS, I would NOT [18:53] er, could not [18:53] But our 2924's had IOS, which was worthless. [18:53] * beeer points to Amagosa [18:53] Exactly. [18:53] precisely [18:53] yaas: what was the problem? [18:53] DrForr: Edwina was cute, but i don't really understand why she was at yapc. [18:53] Im talking about the 6509/consolidated IOS though [18:53] RIght. [18:53] I got so sick of it I started using Perl to fill my cut-buffer with repetitive commands, and pasted the commands into the switches. [18:53] -!- Juerd was kicked from #perl by sheriff_p [that would be *YOU* then.] -- who, me? :) [18:53] I've got several 6509s. [18:53] Who was Edwina? [18:53] hmm. [18:53] let's see [18:53] *** coral sets mode: +o Juerd [18:54] it's like handing someone a linking book out of prison [18:54] I run CatOS on them specifically because I could not group port commands. [18:54] Silmaril: http://www.plover.com/~mjd/misc/mm.html [18:54] I cant remember what all the commands are that I used the ranges with..but there were quite a few. [18:54] I tried. [18:54] The lady hanging around with one of my cohorts., [18:54] she was an asian architect who joined us for dinner at the thai place tuesday night [18:54] ALL THE IMAGES ARE BROKEN [18:54] mendel: Edwina was the tallish Chinese lady. [18:54] be me is also |gets Head. [18:54] okay, hdp. [18:54] Maybe a newer IOS has fixed that, finally. [18:54] and mm.cgi isnot found [18:54] be coral? [18:54] She was cute. [18:54] it's a weird muscle, somewhere behind your face [18:54] yaasastfu: Hrm. [18:54] Id imagine so..the consolidated is supposed to give the better features of both OSes [18:54] Tallish Chinese lady. [18:54] Cannot recall. [18:55] Twice the suck for quadruple the price! [18:55] SUCK TUSK [18:55] i was suffering from tunnel hormones [18:55] yaas: I *said* it was a hack. Try looking at the rules for valid guess syntax. [18:55] * clintp wonders why Mozilla won't do https. This shouldn't be hard. [18:55] unfortunately, I no longer have access to any 6509s to check anything ;) [18:55] cute, smart, and a nice personality -- a rare mix :-) [18:55] And I don't have a spare one I can test on. :) [18:55] Silmaril: My guess was FUCK YOU CLOWN. Do you think that might be related to the problem? [18:55] I'm not sure why she came either. mosfet's her SO. I gather she's from Quebec and had her own reasons for going up. [18:55] yaas: Yes. [18:55] Hmm. [18:55] well, I wasnt going to test. I was just going to poke around the help ;) [18:56] be yaasastfu? [18:56] YOU ARE A STUPID ASSHOLE. SHUT THE FUCK UP. [18:56] * beeer nods [18:56] mendel: So difficult when there's more than one cute woman at YAPC, isn't it. [18:56] be yaasastfu is also |\My guess was FUCK \YOU CLOWN. [18:56] be me again [18:56] * purl gives hdp the Space Finger [18:56] okay, coral. [18:56] drforr: was mosfet at dinner with us on tuesday? [18:56] how many cute women were at yapc? :P [18:57] acire: One less if you weren't! [18:57] Tuesday? Yes. Sitting to my left, opposite mosfet. [18:57] hdp: Indeed. [18:57] unfortunately, I was not. [18:57] Quite a few, acire. [18:57] * DrForr_ applauds hdp. Excellent answer. And doubtless true. [18:57] i think there were more women overall than prior years [18:57] haha [18:57] * cogent thinks about YAPC some more. Hmm. [18:57] * hdp buffs his fingernails. [18:57] waltman: 6.5%, IIRC. [18:57] waltman: yeah, there were six instead of five. [18:57] Haha [18:57] I will try to be at the next one. [18:57] yaas: 20! [18:57] * coral sends the email [18:57] aiee [18:58] mendel: Wow! [18:58] BABE CITY [18:58] And that without aevil, acire, kyriel, or boojum. [18:58] It's like downtown Montreal but without the downtown and without the Montreal! [18:58] Shit. I need to star tpacking. [18:58] * DrForr_ looks at his DSS reception and wonders if the mowers accidentally sliced the cable. [18:58] BAhahahahaha [18:58] So really it's more like Sesame Street. [18:58] > I original subscribed to your server to get some insight into using Perl. I am very sorry I did so. [18:58] I have to leave for Geneva in 36 hours. [18:58] beeer: Is that bad? [18:58] purl, be p5p [18:58] mjd: was skud the 6th? :-) [18:58] Come in here asking stupid shit and you'll be raped with a fencepost [18:59] It is given that I have to do laundry. [18:59] beeer: Holy cow, better start now [18:59] purl, be p5p is also |\I original subscribed to \your server to get some insight into using Perl. \I am very sorry \I did so. [18:59] okay, coral. [18:59] No joke. [18:59] i think no joke is worth turning on JavaScript [18:59] DrForr: the trailer for the new b5 movie is now up on scifi.com [18:59] coral: Where's that from? recent p5p? [18:59] Oo. [18:59] 'Scuse me... [18:59] yeah! 8:58... that's within the 9-minute-limit [19:00] coral: Never mind, I see it. [19:00] yaasastfu: yup [19:00] * Juerd is tired now [19:00] okay. [19:00] Im going to go kill a cat. [19:00] brb [19:00] * cogent finds that Inline::C and Semi::Semicolons doesn't mix so well. [19:00] Oh, BTW the B5 DVDs are scheduled for a November release in Region 2. [19:00] FLEE FELINE! [19:00] geh, its really bad when you can see menuconfig refresh, slow 486's suck [19:00] acire: i killed a penguin today :) [19:00] damn [19:00] mjd's site is cool [19:00] yeah [19:00] you should talk to that mjd person sometime [19:00] he's pretty cool [19:00] you killed a penguin? [19:01] Life would be funnier if every time someone said something stupid, a loud farting and/or raspberry noise drowned them out. [19:01] acire: yep, and i even have proof on tape [19:01] *** coral sets mode: -o Juerd [19:01] haha :) [19:01] or if the HAND OF GOD reached down and smacked them upside the head. [19:01] *** coral sets mode: +o acire [19:01] thanks coral [19:01] nod - [19:01] *** Updated auto-op for *!*ej@*.aralan.net - [19:01] beeer++ [19:01] I want a defined jaw. [19:01] beeer: Sure! [19:01] Are there jaw-definition exercises? [19:01] $mendel->{jaw} = 1 [19:01] There [19:01]